Swedish attitudes to Asians

I read a study where in there some Swedish people do harbour the same stereotypes about (East) Asians as their Anglophone counterparts do. On one hand, they’re no different from everybody else. On the other hand, they could be influenced by their Anglophone peers to varying degrees although coincidences do occur.

(There’s this forum where some Swedish users were discussing about Swedish women going after Balinese men, where one assumes this might disrupt stereotypes.)

Actually to be honest, there are Western/white women do who desire Asian men. Not just (some) K-Pop fans but also how Russian women feel towards the Chinese and how Western women in general feel towards Balinese men. Also if I’m not mistaken, some Swedish men (like some Western men in general) do go after Asian women.

Especially those from Thailand, assuming them to be more submissive. I guess barring the attraction to Balinese gigolos (even though it’s global), Swedish attitudes to (East) Asians are similar to anywhere else to whatever degree.

Some changes in the ACG industry

–An anime professional predicts that the Japanese ACG industry will decline a lot to the point where international publishers like Viz Media end up publishing and translating comics from India, the Philippines, Vietnam and Thailand as a last resort. Tokyopop and the like did distribute and publish Asian non-Japanese comics before but if the Japanese ACG industry were to decline, then publishers would seek Asian non-Japanese comics as the last resort.

–On the other hand, the Western, Middle Eastern and African ACG markets grow significantly as to fill in a void left by Japanese ACG. One may even expect that Ghana could provide its equivalent to the Naruto franchise or at least spawn a lot more internationally popular comics and cartoon franchises. However inevitably out of necessity and one that might even have a big advantage, especially when it comes to seeking better black or African representation.

–Given the severe lack of Japanese ACG, other than a few franchises (including Pokemon), Animax and the like would have to import a lot of non-Japanese productions. Though Animax did do it before with its in-house production LAMB, it’s going to become the norm or at least nearly so. In 2021, they could even air productions like Robin and Stressed Eric (at least in the interim). As well as buying productions from non-Japanese non-Western studios. All is possible in the future.

–DC and Marvel would be heavily affected by this and diversify a lot of their content. Especially in that it can’t always be superheroes though I think characters like Tigra might have a new life in young adult magic realism stories. Marvel even makes people make their own comics somewhere online I think though the next logical step’s to quit print comics for good and dedicate themselves to webcomics (DC’s got DC Universe and Zuda Comics).

–Not to mention that where there’s a dearth of Japanese ACG, DC and Marvel would finally dedicate themselves to appealing to international markets largely on their own. However to get to it, Marvel would have to localise a lot whilst DC gets partly bought by a Sino-Indian corporation. (In fact, DC might end up being the more Asia-focused of the two with the Western part being largely focused in Russia.)

If that’s the case, expect DC Comics to be bought by Russian and Sino-Indian corporations whereas Marvel expands to Asia and Africa without needing to be bought. (Thanks Disney.)

–Russia, in this situation, thanks to Mr Putin, would become one of the largest ACG hubs and serve as the best meeting point between East and West. Russian companies would buy like 30% stake in DC Comics (the others go to China and India with America retaining like 10%) as an attempt to expand internationally. Though not as influential in Asia proper as China and India are, it’s now one of the largest ACG industries in the world right after Nigeria, Ghana and Kenya.

–Not all Japanese franchises will fade out completely. Pokemon’s international enough to persist and at this point, even has a game inspired by Great Britain. (Pokemon’s own parent company, Nintendo, might set up shop in India and China and probably already did.) Japanese publishers would be kept alive by having Chinese and Indian companies buy stake in them. A Chinese company actually started out with chickens and bought the King of Fighters franchise. (If it sounds odd, Samsung started out in the grocery business and did noodles before.)

–Though Russia, Kenya, Ghana and Nigeria (as well as Morocco, Turkey and South Africa) now constitute as one of the largest ACG hubs in the world, the ones with the largest influence within Asia goes to China and India where their influences are greatly felt among their immediate neighbours. Given the growing cooperation between China, Russia and the Philippines there’ll be heavy push to learn Mandarin and Russian as well as more exposure to media so there’s inevitably going to be a strong Chinese influence in the Philippines (as well as Russian) in the future.

–It’s not that Japan stopped producing ACG content, it’s just not the main producer of it at least in the non-Western world anymore. In fact, because of heavy competition the Japanese ACG industry (save for some franchises) have become practically nonexistent and glorified museum pieces if you will. The only people who’ll remember Naruto a lot are going to be in retirement homes (Lensman used to be one of the biggest franchises that even got its own animated adaptation).

–Quite strangely enough and almost unexpectedly, even prose fiction changes to fit the demands now that anime’s gone. I even half-expect young adult and crime novels to be written more like anime episodes or at least heavily acknowledge anime influences. To the point where even crime novels are expected to have characters intended to appeal to certain people a lot (especially with the endlessly categorised features aimed at arousing them) and more increased sexualisation. Crime novels are now also expected to have multimedia franchises if they’re to get successful.

–All is possible in the near future so half expect the next Naruto to be Ghanaian and the like.

Monkey domestication

Somewhat spottier but definitely not impossible to any degree, whether if it’s deliberate taming or commensalism. In Ancient Egypt, there were accounts of people owning monkeys and even making baboons get fruit (this is something that’s replicated by a few Nigerians today). There were also anecdotes of Ugandans owning monkeys in some 19th century documents that I remember.

And you have monkeys being vaccinated in Democratic Republic of Congo and Angola so these are all possible. There were also reports of people, often women and aristocrats, owning monkeys as early as the Middle Ages which continued up to the 20th century. (I have a feeling that the Iberian Barbary Macaques may’ve been descended from pet macaques brought over there.)

Keep in mind that the practise of making macaques get fruit’s still there in Thailand and there’s even a school to train monkeys to do this. That and documents about some Indians owning and taming monkeys (often langurs but also Bonnet monkeys) and feeding them (just as in Thailand). I even have a relative who owned a monkey before.

And there are accounts of Filipinos owning and taming monkeys. Though not popular, it’s possible. Just ask Amazonian Native Brazilians.

The irony of dog domestication

I suspect the real problem with how some know about dog domestication’s that they wouldn’t even consider that dogs were considered vermin (and are sometimes still regarded as such, even by European hunters and dog poisoners). That’s even there in various old texts to varying degrees as is the disdain for stray dogs and mongrels. (Mongrels and stray dogs go hand in hand, whilst not always the case, it does help explain why any degree of straying also lends to any degree of mongrels especially in the countryside.)

Some communities even have beliefs about dogs being traitors and most notably among the Ivorian Beng in one study and the Ancient Greeks in another. (Some Aboriginal communities have beliefs about dingo dogs as tricksters bringing death and misfortune.) The fact that stray dogs still exist, especially in the countryside and anywhere with substantial greenery or slums wrecking havoc on game animals and livestock as well as owned dogs straying at will (to any extent) along with the accompanying distrust or abuse hints at commensalism. Or at least what the Coppingers pointed out.

Not to mention that dogs also scavenge a lot, whether if it’s often unintentional (moreso in places where there’s no toilets around and sometimes with reports of dogs eating dead owners) or sometimes deliberate especially if they’re given leftovers (some households still do this). There are even reports of people feeding stray dogs so it still proves the Coppingers’ points about dogs being commensals. Especially in that they stray at will when convenient (same with cats) and cause problems (same with cats too).

I even think dogs are comparable to monkeys in that they’re both highly intelligent, adaptive and annoying at times not to mention being fed and owned by humans. There are even monkey training schools in Thailand and Malaysia with monkeys being trained to catch coconuts. There are people who do bother owning and taming monkeys, go as far back as the Middle Ages and Ancient Egypt (when it comes to babboons and even hyenas, a practise that’s revived among some Nigerians). There aren’t just obese cats and dogs but also obese monkeys (who’re similarly spoilt and overfed). The reports of cats, dogs and monkeys being frequently vaccinated in parts of Democratic Republic of Congo and Angola suggests that there’s a considerable number of monkey owners there.

And the most successfully domesticated macaque’s the Rheseus Macaque if because they’re frequently used in laboratories (same with cats and certain dogs, especially Beagles). This is pretty much where the comparison of dog domestication to sheep fails. Not that sheep are any less annoying but reports of sheep pestilence’s rare compared to simian, feline and canine pestilence. Heck if stereotypes of old maids are any indication cats, dogs and monkeys being spinsters’ pets isn’t always because these were meant for companionship. But since lapdogs and mongrels were sneered at a lot, there’s a real difference between pets domesticated for a truly useful purpose (which is why sheep aren’t going to be spinters’ pets) and misplacing any affinity for humans onto pets (stray cats and dogs as well as lapdogs).

Mongrels were pests and lapdogs were annoying nuissances because people used them in lieu of human relationships (hence accusations of bestiality and being unwilling to do parental responsibility to children and people in general). Monkeys were also spinsters’ pets and have been fed by people so this should put dogs closer to commensals proper for these reasons.

Pet ownership

Keep in mind that if this blog’s any indication, there was a time when lapdogs (and poodles) were enough to make women into spinsters or so especially if you go by the 18th century right up to the early 20th century so it’s like roughly 300 years or so. Conversely speaking, it’s not that male cat owners were nonexistent before. But the men who do were likelier to be farmers and even hunters (that’s even the case in Germany and Poland if I’m not mistaken though I’m misremembering).

Sometimes for companionship, sometimes for pest control. To this day, this is still the case in some farming and village households. (I think farmers might constitute the largest number of male cat owners.) Keep in mind that there’s even a historic precedence for monkey domestication and ownership. The most successfully commensal and even domesticated monkeys are the macaques. (There were reports of monkey ownership among nuns and spinsters before too.)

And some people today own monkeys just as baboons were historically trained to get fruit in Egypt, people do the same to macaques in Thailand and Malaysia. That’s for real just as the anecdotes of spinsters and nuns owning monkeys do.

Pet hyenas and foxes?

It seems in the case with cats, dogs and monkeys the general social attitude’s ambivalent but one that gives into either extreme not to mention it gets complicated by the degree of socialisation they have to people in relation to whatever niche they occupy (something Russian scientists actually understood well). As for hyenas, that might also be true to some degree but with much more stigmatisation.

There are people capable of taming and domesticating hyenas as in parts of Nigeria (I think and remember). But I also think social attitudes play a big say in stigmatising hyena ownership and likely fox ownership (as in China and Japan). If these animals are associated with witchcraft it makes sense why some are too reluctant to own or tame them though this may also be true for either cats or dogs (or both) in some religious communities.

Same with baboons since they’re also linked to witchcraft in Southern Africa. I think there’s some mention of fox ownership before in Medieval Ireland as well as fox fur being used in similar time periods so it seemed foxes are definitely going the way of dogs. In the sense where their socialisation to people’s pretty complicated. Some bother owning and taming them. Some domesticate them for fur (same with cats and dogs).

Some feed foxes just as they do with monkeys, cats and dogs. I do think that with the feeding stray animals as well as outdoor owned animals a lot (especially with leftovers) makes the commensalism thing much more realistic. After all, there are people who feed stray and wild animals a lot. That and training them, even if for cats and dogs that actually involves deliberate malnutrition.

(Or in the case with monkeys, there’s even a legitimate school in Thailand.)

Who knows if they also do the same to hyenas, well maybe to some degree but I get the impression of social stigma playing a really big part in it even if it’s not always the case with others either.


Some predictions about the world:

The Seven Headed Beast–China, Philippines, Japan, Mongolia, Korea (unified), Thailand, Pakistan and India
Whore of Babylon–Israel (the Antichrist’s from Tel Aviv)

Duterte’s just Satan’s plan to bring China closer to the Philippines. We shouldn’t miss him as he’s going to hell for saying ‘who’s this stupid God’.

Every Catholic church gets bombed in the Philippines to make way for Daoist and Hindu temples.

The Philippines would get firebombed by Nigeria in WW3 for attacking innocent missionaries with Nigeria being God’s true chosen country.