No talk

Though they fell in love quickly and despite having two children, she eventually started talking to him less often. She talks about being able to do things on her own and overcoming stuff but when asked about whatever happened to her she says doesn’t know. She grows silent when asked again.

Perhaps her husband tried to reach her out about her problems but she withdrew herself from him. Preferring to talk to people other than him, he tries to bear with her growing aloofness and duplicity. Then he encounters his mother-in-law and whines, she tells him to shut up. He starts thinking about what she did to his wife before.

The same silent treatment. Superficially outgoing but internally dysfunctional with loved ones. No wonder why she acts that way to him because of how her mother treated her before. Unable to reach out to her, he seeks help. Then they tell him something about them being seriously maladjusted.

Despite all appearances, there’s no real affection other than Mummy forcing her to live up to her standards to the detriment of any real intimacy and conversations between the two. That and the possibility of a disability made him understand them better, not in a way others would expect.


She admits

She admits she can’t draw

Well, deliberately stunted

Always so mediocre at it.

Before the Bronies

I’ve already talked about it before but it’s worth revisiting given that the Bronies have peaked almost coinciding with Riverdale airing on telly. I made a connection between them in the sense of Archie Comics, already having a substantial male readership in addition to the intended female one, being a precursor to Lauren Faust’s My Little Pony production.

Maybe not exactly but substantial and well-established enough to predate Bronies by decades. There was even an early 2000s study on male Archie Comics readers, especially with regards to their preferred female character again predating what the Bronies will do to the Mane Six. Not that there weren’t any Bronies before the 2010s but would’ve been fairly few and rather casual to boot.

In a chronologically weird way, male Archie fans still outnumbered those early Bronies back then. Again, I get the feeling that male Archie readers are essentially the true Proto-Bronies. Archie Comics is still in publication and that there are still male Archie readers around enough to draw odd comparisons. But it could also be me late in some regards.

If I had written it several years before, it would’ve provoked a wider discussion. The Brony fandom might be declining at this point but it would be amusing if Brony levels of drama were to be replicated in the Riverdale fandom (and probably already is to a degree).

Male fans of girl stuff

Like I said, the Brony fandom isn’t so much the first fandom around a girl franchise in general but the most publicised one so far. There were already (pervy, straight) male fans of Sailor Moon, Minky Momo, Winx, Totally Spies, Witch and Archie Comics before. But since their fixation involves 2D women, they would’ve ended up being more lowkey than Bronies, who are dangerously close to the dreaded furries of yore.

That is save for Minky Momo which attracted surprised its studio executives and producers once they found out about the programme’s other fans. That doesn’t stop women from enjoying MLP, Archie, Totally Spies, Winx, Sailor Moon and Witch and may even outnumber their male counterparts at least with some of these franchises but that also lends credence to the possibility of either one of them being a precursor to the Brony phenomenon.

Technically, Bronies should (and do) have more in common with the older Furry and Disney fandoms as these involve heavily merchandised anthropomorphic animals. In fact, it’s been suspected that Disney created the Furry fandom. Sailor Moon, Totally Spies and Kim Possible might be better precursors to the Brony fandom in that these involve female fighters and adventurers of sorts.

Archie Comics should stand out as one of the earlier franchises with a lasting mixed gender fandom despite being mostly aimed at girls. There are straight male fans who sexualise the likes of Betty and Veronica just as what Bronies do with the Mane Six. If Archie’s an older franchise (around since the 40s), then there’ll be a lot more older Archie fanboys than there are Bronies.

Most of the earlier Ponyfags, prior to the Bronies proper, were women. The fact that there were already male Archie fans prior to the Brony phenomenon shows much much of a harbinger Archie Comics was when it comes to men consuming female franchises like these.

Proto-Bronies (A retrospective)

The MLP fandom is at this point already past its peak, being initially some kind of novelty that gained notoriety over liking girl stuff. In reality there were already adult male fans of anything intended for little girls from Kim Possible to Archie Comics and Minky Momo. In fact, adult Minky Momo fans caused some furore especially with studio executives.

I also suppose that adult male fans of both Kim Possible and Archie Comics tend to be more low-key. Not that female fans are nonexistent and might be fairly common but there’s substantial heterosexual male fan activity for Archie on DeviantART to make one consider them to be a precursor to the Brony fandom proper.

It’s not that male fandom of any feminine franchise is nonexistent but that it’s the Bronies that brought it to the fore big time. Especially outside of Japan where thanks to Minky Momo, that subculture was recognised early on for better or worse. Bronies have already peaked with some members branching out to the furry scene proper.

But Bronies also made male fandom for female stuff more visible. It’s not the first one to be publicised but the first one to be recognised globally especially outside of anything with 2d human women in it.

No politics in my stories

I guess that’s true in theory but among some superhero fans, the only politics they’ll ever tolerate and endorse is conservative at that. It’s possible to have nonpolitical stories, it’s actually not that hard. Though the suspicion is understandable and yes it’s possible to have LGBT, disabled or Muslim characters without being blatantly political. In fact, the game Dramatical Murder has almost everything without being too political.

Whatever that is though one suspects these characters show up for fetishistic purposes. The thing is it’s always possible to have such characters without being too political, at best implicitly so given the context. But the biggest problem isn’t a matter of shoving politics (the X-Men stories are guilty of this before the SJW thing and Mystique was going to be Nightcrawler’s father).

But that a good number of superhero fans tend to be seriously politically conservative. You know adhering to the love of warfare, all-American/European stuff. What’s really blinding them isn’t so much of SJW politics but rather idealised, cherry picking nostalgia. It’s a coincidence that fans who detest SJW politics a lot endorse seemingly conservative minded stuff.

That includes GI Joe, Cable and The Punisher. Again not always the case but seems like it to me.


That’s the weird thing about marriages and childrearing as these involve a considerable degree of interdependence between people for a long time. Not that independence isn’t allowed but I suspect with spouses, some interdependency is needed to keep the relationship around for long. Hence the old saying ’till death do us apart.’

It’s not just helping the spouse around but also talking to it a lot including bad feelings. It’s unsurprising that to marriage experts and the like, if a couple doesn’t talk to each other then it’s a sign that their relationship’s going to decline. Almost as if there’s some serious incompatibility building up. I suspect that’s the point with Robert Epstein’s research on arranged marriage.

According to his research there, love builds up gradually and it’s based on compatibility and doing favours for the in-law’s family. Not that lust is nonexistent as there are recorded cases of people courting their future spouses but it’s often done with permission so. I guess for people who tend to be very independent, a spouse being a lifelong partner tests the upper limits of their independence without even trying.

A human can live without much human interaction but then again as humans tend to be social, such a character is often seen as a weirdo. Plus, marriage is forming a lifelong bond between partners so some degree of interdependency is needed to maintain it. Otherwise the marriage will fall apart.